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[你們認為是誰]投票:中國的頭號盟友是誰?[巴鐵和三哥混戰(zhàn)貼]

時間:2012-10-19 05:58 來源:z236.cn 作者:編輯 點擊:

誰是中國的頭號盟友?一名網(wǎng)友在巴基斯坦軍壇對此問題發(fā)起了投票。結果不出所料,巴基斯坦和朝鮮是投票熱門,分別占據(jù)前兩名。60.63%的網(wǎng)友選擇巴基斯坦是中國頭號盟友,12.5%的網(wǎng)友選擇朝鮮是中國的頭號盟友。有網(wǎng)友認為中國兩個最好的盟友是世界頭號流氓國家肯定是天作之合。有網(wǎng)友認為沒有永遠的朋友,只有永遠的利益,并向巴基斯坦人提醒,稱中國把巴基斯坦當做對抗印度的棋子,一旦中印問題解決,巴基斯坦就毫無價值。
    
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    原文標題:China's no.1 ally is?
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    投票:誰是中國的頭號盟友
    以下是網(wǎng)友評論:
    
    RPK(印度)
    Pakistan can be ally of china But china is not ally of pakistan
    
    巴基斯坦可能是中國盟友,但中國不是巴基斯坦盟友。
    
    A1Kaid(巴基斯坦)
    Interesting, explain how China is not an ally of Pakistan. I think most well-read members would argue in opposition to that.
    
    有趣,解釋下中國怎么不是巴基斯坦盟友。我認為壇子里博學的成員會反對。
    
    darkinsky(巴基斯坦)
    you are saying
    
    if A=B and A=C
    
    A =/= B =/= C
    
    lol
    
    你是在說:
    
    如果A=B和A=C,
    
    那么A≠B≠C,
    
    笑
    
    Mirza Jatt(印度)
    None. Only countries which comes close are Pakistan and NK....but compared to china both these countries are too weak and thus cant really be allies in true sense and equal terms.
    
    沒有一個是。唯一與中國走得近的是巴基斯坦和朝鮮...但與中國比較起來,這些國家太弱了,因此不能成為真正意義上的平等盟友。
    
    原創(chuàng)翻譯:三泰虎
    
    TeriShirtDaButton(印度)
    It cant be decided by trolls here but pakistan is one of the closest to chinese..
    
    投票不能被釣魚者左右,不過巴基斯坦倒是中國人最親密的盟友...
    
    SpArK(印度)
    A friend in need is a friend indendeedeee.
    
    患難見真情。
    
    scorpionx(印度)
    There is a difference between ally and stooges.
    
    盟友和傀儡之間是有區(qū)別的。
    
    ajtr(巴基斯坦)
    China's best allies are Indian communists and The hindu..............................
    
    中國最好的盟友是印度共產(chǎn)主義者和印度教徒...
    
    veekysingh
    sure pakistan , as they friendship higher then himalayas and deeper then ocean's
    
    當然是巴基斯坦,中巴友誼比喜馬拉雅山更高,比大海更深。
    
    MandarK(印度)
    I think Burma is the best ally of China. Some member mentioned earlier that through Mayanmar a pipe line will be made which will help China to bypass enegry blockage in case it is imposed.
    
    我認為緬甸是中國最好的盟友。壇子里的一些會員以前提到一件事,即中國將鋪設一條經(jīng)過緬甸的管道,能夠幫助中國繞開能源封鎖。
    
    GR!FF!N(印度)
    Still North Korea,whom China is protecting for over half a century...relationship with Pakistan flourished lately..unfortunately,both country will become more a burden than a ally(North Korea already is,and Pakistan will within decades,look what USA thinks now)..no offense to Pakistani members..and frankly speaking,there is no permanent ally in international politics..only permanent interests..
    
    仍然是中國保護了半個多世紀的朝鮮...中巴關系是后來活躍的...不幸地是,兩國更可能成為負擔,而不是盟友(朝鮮已經(jīng)是負擔,巴基斯坦幾十年內(nèi)也會如此,看看美國如今的打算)...不是要冒犯巴基斯坦會員...老實說,國際政治上沒有永遠的盟友,只有永恒的利益...
    
    Kesang(印度)
    North Korea. China fought their war in Korean war and lost thousands of lives(forget about huge loss of assets). And where were China when we divided Pakistan in two pieces or in kargil war.
    
    是朝鮮。中國參加了朝鮮戰(zhàn)爭,損失了數(shù)以千計士兵的生命(還不算巨大的資產(chǎn)損失)。我們把巴基斯坦分成兩半或者在卡吉爾戰(zhàn)爭時,中國在哪里呢。
    
    joekrish(印度)
    None according to me, China is a smart country and will play according to the situation, Pakistan is a counter to India and may be a little more.
    
    依我來看,沒有一個是。中國是個聰明國家,會見機行事。巴基斯坦是用于反制印度的一枚棋子,或者還有一些其他作用。
    
    Gigawatt(印度)
    Pakistan's main ally is China but China's main ally is not Pakistan. I think its Iran.
    
    巴基斯坦的主要盟友是中國,但中國的主要盟友不是巴基斯坦。我認為是伊朗。
    
    A1Kaid(巴基斯坦)
    Vietnam would be an interesting pick in the long term but current disagreements between China and Vietnam hamper relations. Though I agree even a powerful country needs at least one trusted ally. For the US that would be UK, second Israel, third NATO countries.
    
    從長遠來看,越南會是個有趣的選擇,但中越分歧妨礙了兩國關系。不過,有一點我同意,即強國需要至少一個值得信任的盟友。美國的盟友是英國,其次是以色列,再次是北約國家。
    
    HappinessMark!(巴基斯坦)
    I'm undoubtedly so happy to see the results, unbelieveable that such massive people can be so impartial and true in making selection
    
    I was scared that Indian would have selected Korea like thing (sorry for my doubts, as we both suspect each others)
    
    Just a couple of month before I had seen an unknown guy in a take-away.... I directly asked ' Are you a Chinies?)...He said Yes and then he instantly asked me 'Are you Indian?' I said no, make a guess...He instantly said 'Pakistan'. As I said Yes, he said warmly that Pakistan china friends...I was so happy to listen these words and I said YESSSSSSSSS....
    
    Who knows tomorrow and who knows the benefits, the only thing we know that from 65 years we are reliable friends and our next generations will keep following the suit 'himalyas friendship'...
    
    毫無疑問,看到這個結果,我非常高興,難以相信如此多人能公正地做出選擇。
    
    我非常擔心印度人會選擇諸如朝鮮等國家。
    
    幾個月前,我在一個外賣店看到一名陌生的家伙。我直接問“你是中國人嗎”...他說是的,然后立即問我“你是印度人嗎”。我說不是,叫他猜一猜...他立即說是“巴基斯坦”。我說是的。他熱情地說中巴是朋友...我非常高興地聽到這席話,并表示贊同...
    
    誰知道明天會如何,誰又知道是否有利益。我們唯一知道的是:在65年里,我們是可靠的朋友,我們的下一代會把“喜馬拉雅山友誼”繼續(xù)下去...
    
    原創(chuàng)翻譯:三泰虎
    
    A1Kaid(巴基斯坦)
    Did you guys hug?
    
    你們擁抱了沒有?
    
    HappinessMark!(巴基斯坦)
    Nope we followed chinese culture then by bowing down thrice quickly to each other (ni hao, ni hao, ni hao). ..
    
    沒有,我們按照中國文化向對方快速鞠躬三次(你好、你好、你好)...
    
    Chinese-Dragon(中國)
    Bow three times, lol? That's what we do at funerals buddy.
    
    I think you probably remembered it wrong. Once is fine.
    
    鞠躬三次,笑?我們在葬禮時才那樣做。
    
    我認為你可能記錯了。一次就夠了。
    
    A1Kaid(巴基斯坦)
    Most Chinese I have met personally know little about geopolitics and about the bilateral ties between Pakistan and China. But there was a sense that Pakistan is not an enemy but not a sense of Pakistan is a top ally or anything like that.
    
    大多數(shù)我碰到的中國人對地緣政治和中巴雙邊關系知之甚少。不過他們有一種感覺,即巴基斯坦不是敵人,但也不是頭號盟友那樣的關系。
    
    HappinessMark!(巴基斯坦)
    I'm muslim, what account I had given in my first post is as true as the existance of this planet.
    
    however I were having the same opinion that most chinese are not aware of our friendship (and I still agree with you)...The way we pakistanis know them as friend...
    
    我是穆斯林,我在第一個回復上所說的話就像這個星球一樣真實的。
    
    不過,我也持同樣一個看法,即大多數(shù)中國人并不清楚我們的友誼...并不按照我們巴基斯坦人把他們當朋友的方式對待我們...
    
    Wright(加拿大)
    Probably the nations China does business with the most. I would have to say the US, because they hold a lot of US financial assets, thus have a greater stake. The US also has 4th largest Chinese population in the world according to wiki.
    
    So its either Si微民網(wǎng)pore or the US. North Korea is more of a headache for China recently.
    
    可能是那些與中國做生意做得多的國家。我不得不說是美國,因為中國有大量的美國金融資產(chǎn),所以厲害關系大得多。維基顯示,美國有世界第四大的華人人口。
    
    所以,或者新加坡是中國最好的盟友,或者是美國。最近對于中國來說,朝鮮更像是個頭疼問題。
    
    manojb(印度)
    Martians and aliens and north koreans.
    
    火星人、外星人和朝鮮人。
    
    r3alist(巴基斯坦)
    i do not think china believes in the notion of undying friendship per se, just mutual interests, us israel is a unique abnormal case which should not be compared to pakistan china.
    
    china also does not wish to take on the burden of the world like the us pretends to, so i cant see them giving freebies, everything is an investment to them.
    
    i will believe china/pakistan so called friendship only if china can positively incorporate pakistan into it massive economic growth.
    
    我并不認為中國相信永恒的友誼,只是相信共同利益而已。美以友誼是獨特的異常情況,不應該類比中巴友誼。
    
    中國也不想承擔美國假裝要承擔的負擔,所以我看不到他們發(fā)放“免費贈品”的可能,一切都是基于投資考量。
    
    只有中國能把巴基斯坦積極整合進其大規(guī)模的經(jīng)濟增長時,我才相信中巴所謂的友誼。
    
    sicsheep
    Pakistan for sure?
    
    Interestingly India is not even on this list LOL. I think it'd at least get more votes than Japan.
    
    確定是巴基斯坦?
    
    有趣地是印度沒有出現(xiàn)在名單中,笑。我認為印度至少可以比日本獲得更多投票。
    
    illusion8(印度)
    India an ally of China you must be joking.. it would not cross anybody's mind even from the farthest stretch of imagination and even if one is highly intoxicated
    
    印度是中國盟友?你是在開玩笑吧...即使最能想象和極度興奮的人也不會閃過這樣的念頭。
    
    SHAMK9(巴基斯坦)
    NK and Pakistan are the only ones i can think of, maybe Sri Lanka will join in the future.
    
    朝鮮和巴基斯坦是我唯一能想到的,或許斯里蘭卡以后也會加入。
    
    S.Y.A(巴基斯坦)
    I have voted for Russia, seeing that they are the ones providing China with the toys (SAMs, aircrafts), and to some extent support in their developing their own.
    
    我投給了俄羅斯,因為俄羅斯為中國提供了“玩具"(薩姆導彈、戰(zhàn)機),還某種程度上支持他們自主開發(fā)武器。
    
    ao333(加拿大)
    Why aren't people voting Russia? Even if Russia's alliance with China and India are one of convenience, the permanent security council members are as close as ever in the UN. Russia is one of the only major powers which actually interprets the "One China" policy the PRC way...
    
    為什么沒有人投票給俄羅斯?雖說俄羅斯結盟中印是出于利益考量,不過兩個常任理事國在聯(lián)合國里還親密合作。俄羅斯是唯一按照中國方式闡述”一個中國“政策的大國...
    
    A1Kaid(巴基斯坦)
    Maybe people aren't well informed about the Russia-China strategic ties. Russia is arguably China's most important and powerful partners. Also both often cooperate in the UNSC to counter Western-European influence.
    
    也許人們對中俄戰(zhàn)略關系并不了如指掌。俄羅斯是中國最重要的強大盟友尚待商榷。此外,兩國經(jīng)常在安理會合作一起反制西歐影響。
    
    ahfatzia(新加坡)
    I could be wrong but I think most Chinese people, especially the educated ones here, distrust Russia for historical reasons.
    
    或許說錯了,不過我認為大多數(shù)中國人,特別是受過教育的中國人,出于歷史原因而不信任俄羅斯。
    
    kollang(伊朗)
    atleast put Iran in the list...anyway Iran will be China no.1 ally in near future.
    
    至少把伊朗列入名單...不管怎樣,伊朗近期會成為中國頭號盟友。
    
    TeriShirtDaButton(印度)
    Chinese dont look for allies,instead they look for stooges.
    
    中國人不會尋找盟友,而是尋找傀儡。
    
    Solomon2(美國)
    
    China's number one ally has been a united China and its number one enemy has been a China divided by warlords.
    
    中國的頭號盟友是團結的中國,中國的頭號敵人是軍閥割據(jù)的中國。
    
    BRICS(俄羅斯)
    China doesn't have any true allies. China is powerful and clever enough to have pawns. Pakistan is China's pawn. China will fight India to the last Pakistani.
    
    中國沒有真正的盟友。中國強大又聰明,懂得利用棋子。巴基斯坦就是中國棋子,中國會與印度戰(zhàn)斗到只剩最后一名巴基斯坦人。
    
    Pakistanisage(巴基斯坦)
    For Pakistan China is of huge importance as Pakistan's top ally and I am pretty sure China values Pakistan's alliance as well.
    
    對于巴基斯坦來說,中國相當重要,是巴基斯坦的頭號盟友。我確信中國同樣珍重巴基斯坦同盟。
    
    Malik Abdullah(巴基斯坦)
    I m studying for the last 2 years in China n going to stay here for 4 more years..n i can tell Chinese people love n respect for us(Pakistanis)is great!..They call us lao pengyou(old friend) not just pengyou(friend) n the best part is every chinese know tht n the happiness in dere faces when they got to know m from Pakistan makes me love China more
    
    過去兩年,我在中國學習,還會繼續(xù)呆4年?吹贸鰜恚袊藢ξ覀儼突固谷说淖鹬睾蜔釔凼呛馨舻...他們不只是稱呼我們朋友,而是叫我們老朋友。最值得稱道的部分是每個中國人都知道這樣稱呼。他們獲知我來自巴基斯坦時臉上洋溢著的快樂表情讓我更加熱愛中國。
    
    原創(chuàng)翻譯:三泰虎
    
    Andromache(巴基斯坦)
    Chinese No 1 ally are its own people who are working hard and had been thats why today China is silently surpassing everyone in every field.
    
    中國頭號盟友是一直辛勤工作的國民,中國今天默默在每個領域超過其他國家的原因也正是如此。
    
    JD_In(印度)
    Soviets were too big and too strong but they were not so arrogant and did not have expansionist policies unlike China today!
    
    蘇聯(lián)體積之大,力量之強,超乎現(xiàn)象,不過不會那么傲慢,不會像中國今天那樣奉行擴張主義政策。
    
    JD_In(印度)
    For those Pakistani members who are under the impression that China is their close ally or all weather friends, must know that, as long as we are enemies, you are relevant to them, once we have all our O/S issues resolved, Pakistan will mean nothing to China…take my words, may be India and Pakistan have great scope to form a good ally due to its common culture and tradition….As I said, China’s ally is China itself!
    
    論壇里那些認為中國是親密盟友或者全天候朋友的巴基斯坦會員,你們必須清楚一點,即只要中印還是敵人,他們還真把你們當一回事,一旦中印解決了所有問題,巴基斯坦對于中國來說就一無是處了...記住我的話,印巴擁有共同的文化和傳統(tǒng),也許兩國有結成盟友的更大空間....我說過,中國的盟友是自己!
    
    Holmes(印度)
    There are no alliances, only interest matters.
    
    The main source of China's wealth is US, not PK
    
    沒有所謂的盟友,只有利益。
    
    中國財富的主要來源是美國,不是巴基斯坦。
    
    wakapdf(巴基斯坦)
    Putting all emotions aside, China has a non-alliance policy i.e. they are equally allied with everyone. Due to our long term co-operation and joint ventures with the Chinese, they would always have a soft side for Pakistan. But that doesnt mean that they would go all out for us like US does for Israel. Chinese will support us in international forums and the UN but would never pick a fight with any nation for Pakistan. To put things into perspective (our trade with China 5 Billion, India's trade with China 100 Billion), do the math! being said that, we are greatfull for all the help that we recieved and continue to recieve from our Chinese brothers
    
    把一切感情擱在一邊。中國奉行不結盟政策,也就是與各國同等交好。由于中巴長期合作和合資企業(yè)的存在,中國人一直對巴基斯坦展現(xiàn)出溫情的一面。但并不意味著他們會像美國全力支持以色列那樣為我們豁出去。中國人會在國際論壇和聯(lián)合國上支持我們,但不會為了巴基斯坦去打其他國家。把目光放長遠一點(我們與中國的貿(mào)易額是50億美元,中印貿(mào)易額是1000億美元),自己算一下吧!話雖如此,對中國兄弟一直給我們的一切幫助,我們表示感謝。
    
    Hobo1(印度)
    China's number 1 Ally is Pakistan And no 2 ally is North Korea.
    Must this is match made in heaven. China top 2 best mates are world's top rogue states.
    
    中國頭號盟友是巴基斯坦,第二號盟友是朝鮮。
    
    肯定是天作之合。中國前兩個最好的盟友是世界頭號流氓國家。
    
    Czar786(印度)
    China is successfull because of pakistan ,let me remind you guys Pakistan also played an important role in bridging the communication gap between China and the West by facilitating the 1972 Nixon visit to China.Pakistan has served as China's main bridge between Muslim countries.
    China itself said pakistan is our israel so don't mess with islamabad
    
    中國是因為巴基斯坦而成功。給你們提個醒:巴基斯坦促成了1972年尼克松訪華,在中國和西方之間的交流搭起橋梁方面扮演了重要角色。巴基斯坦也搭起了中國與穆斯林國家的橋梁。
    
    中國說過,巴基斯坦是我們的以色列,所以別與伊斯蘭堡廝混在一起。國際戰(zhàn)場上沒有什么盟友,只有敵人的敵人一說。
    
    國際戰(zhàn)場上沒有什么盟友,只有敵人的敵人一說。
    
    某ACer的話:王者之路注定是孤獨的,只能你一個人走~~ Post by insetinto (2012-10-16 16:16)
    
    。。。。。。。有網(wǎng)友認為沒有永遠的朋友,只有永遠的利益,并向巴基斯坦人提醒,稱中國把巴基斯坦當做對抗印度的棋子,一旦中印問題解決,巴基斯坦就毫無價值。
    
    這話其實很對
    
    但是問題是 除非印度分裂 否則中印矛盾永遠存在
    
    有網(wǎng)友認為沒有永遠的朋友,只有永遠的利益,并向巴基斯坦人提醒,稱中國把巴基斯坦當做對抗印度的棋子,一旦中印問題解決,巴基斯坦就毫無價值。
    
    這話其實很對
    
    但是問題是 除非印度分裂 否則中印矛盾永遠存在
    
    關鍵那個網(wǎng)友看地區(qū)是印度人。。
    
    。。。。。。。
    
    不知道彈幕還在不在 那個視頻是兔子的 白樺林的約定日本那一票是什么情況圖樣我說是白頭鷹你們會噴我嗎?美帝居然擠進前三~~~
    
    緊隨位于第二的朝鮮中國和巴基斯坦雖然實力不平等,但中國非常需要它,無論是國際輿論還是地緣政治,上次8平方多少國家和中國絕交的,巴基斯坦第一個表態(tài)堅決擁護cpc的決策。其實大家都明白
    
    三哥要是倒了
    
    中國也不會給小巴好果子吃
    
    關鍵在于小巴對中國也真心稱不上友好,說難聽點就是中巴狼狽為奸而已,中國需要小巴牽制三哥,小巴也需要中國的幫助對抗三哥
    
    然而。。小巴內(nèi)部反華勢力真心不算少,只是礙于現(xiàn)在的利益關系,中國才沒怎么去用力敲打盟友,一是有共同利益,二是要有互相信任。
    
    小巴如果鐵了心站中國的隊,分享一些利益也不是不可以考慮啊~~先問問元芳是怎么說的
    
    熊兔黨飄走,人人頭像就是熊兔
    過去兩年,我在中國學習,還會繼續(xù)呆4年。看得出來,中國人對我們巴基斯坦人的尊重和熱愛是很棒的...他們不只是稱呼我們朋友,而是叫我們老朋友。最值得稱道的部分是每個中國人都知道這樣稱呼。他們獲知我來自巴基斯坦時臉上洋溢著的快樂表情讓我更加熱愛中國。
    
    每個人都知道老朋友這樣稱呼,這就足夠了。A1Kaid(巴基斯坦)
    Did you guys hug?
    
    你們擁抱了沒有?
    
    HappinessMark!(巴基斯坦)
    Nope we followed chinese culture then by bowing down thrice quickly to each other (ni hao, ni hao, ni hao). ..
    
    沒有,我們按照中國文化向對方快速鞠躬三次(你好、你好、你好)...
    
    Chinese-Dragon(中國)
    Bow three times, lol? That's what we do at funerals buddy.
    
    I think you probably remembered it wrong. Once is fine.
    
    鞠躬三次,笑?我們在葬禮時才那樣做。
    
    我認為你可能記錯了。一次就夠了。
    
     我專業(yè)有倆同學就是巴基斯坦的
    第一次聊天以后互相問了是哪個國家來的,然后熱烈的握手,老朋友兄弟什么的稱呼都來了 難道你們沒發(fā)現(xiàn)美帝的得票率比毛子高嗎?這不科學啊.美帝怎么能到第三...

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