【樓主】切腹切手指2012-12-14 19:48
» 據(jù)印度雷迪夫(Rediff.com)12月11日?qǐng)?bào)道,題為《美國(guó)觀點(diǎn):印度、中國(guó)不會(huì)很快統(tǒng)治世界》。報(bào)道稱,美國(guó)情報(bào)機(jī)構(gòu)認(rèn)為,美國(guó)將是世界上首個(gè)不受霸權(quán)國(guó)家主宰的“領(lǐng)先國(guó)家”,中國(guó)和印度均不大可能在2030年前推翻美國(guó)霸權(quán)且創(chuàng)造新的國(guó)際秩序。另一個(gè)全球大國(guó)取代美國(guó)且創(chuàng)造新的國(guó)際秩序,是這段時(shí)期內(nèi)最不可能發(fā)生的事情。中國(guó)和印度等亞洲巨人不大可能取代美國(guó)成為世界大國(guó),因?yàn)楸本┗蛘咝碌吕锊痪邆漕愃迫A盛頓的能力,無(wú)法組建國(guó)際聯(lián)盟,或者無(wú)法就特定問(wèn)題發(fā)動(dòng)全球輿論原創(chuàng)翻譯:原文標(biāo)題:US VIEW: India, China won't rule the world anytime soon原文鏈接:The United States will be the "first among equals" in a world not dominated by a hegemonic power as neither China nor India are likely to topple the American supremacy to create a new international order by 2030, the US intelligence believes."The replacement of the US by another global power and the creation of a new international order seem to be the least likely outcome in this time period."No other power is likely to achieve such a role in the time frame under any plausible scenario," Christopher Kojm, chairman of National Intelligence Council, told reporters at a news conference.美國(guó)情報(bào)機(jī)構(gòu)認(rèn)為,美國(guó)將是世界上首個(gè)不受霸權(quán)國(guó)家主宰的“領(lǐng)先國(guó)家”,中國(guó)和印度均不大可能在2030年前推翻美國(guó)霸權(quán)創(chuàng)造新的國(guó)際秩序。另一個(gè)全球大國(guó)取代美國(guó)且創(chuàng)造新的國(guó)際秩序,是這段時(shí)期內(nèi)最不可能發(fā)生的事情。在這個(gè)時(shí)間范圍內(nèi),在任何可能發(fā)生的情況下,沒(méi)有一個(gè)大國(guó)可能取得這個(gè)角色,美國(guó)國(guó)家情報(bào)委員會(huì)主席Christopher Kojm在新聞發(fā)布會(huì)上接受記者采訪時(shí)稱。Kojm was responding to questions after the release of 'Global Trend 2030' report of the National Intelligence Council.Mathew Burrows, counselor to the NIC and author of the report insisted that Asian giants like China and India are unlikely to replace the US as the world power, because like Washington, Beijing or New Delhi do not have the capacity to form an international coalition or mobilise global opinion on any particular issue."Well, the economy is one important factor in a country's power. And our main point here is that, the Asian powers... talking here about China and India -- don't have the means like the US does of really pulling together coalitions -- these are coalitions not only of states but also non-state actors -- in dealing with the global challenges."So in that sense, the US is in a very unique role," Burrows said.國(guó)家情報(bào)委員會(huì)撰寫(xiě)的《2030全球趨勢(shì)》報(bào)告發(fā)布后,Kojm接受了記者的提問(wèn)。委員會(huì)顧問(wèn)、該份報(bào)告的作者梅迪·博羅歐堅(jiān)稱,中國(guó)和印度等亞洲巨人不大可能取代美國(guó)成為世界大國(guó),因?yàn)楸本┗蛘咝碌吕锊痪邆漕愃迫A盛頓的能力,無(wú)法組建國(guó)際聯(lián)盟,或者無(wú)法就特定問(wèn)題發(fā)動(dòng)全球輿論。經(jīng)濟(jì)是國(guó)家實(shí)力的一個(gè)重要因素。我們的主要觀點(diǎn)是,亞洲大國(guó)——這里指的是中國(guó)和印度——在應(yīng)對(duì)全球挑戰(zhàn)時(shí),沒(méi)有類似美國(guó)的組建聯(lián)盟的手段,不僅是國(guó)家的聯(lián)盟,而且也包括非國(guó)家參與者的聯(lián)盟。所以,從這個(gè)意義上來(lái)看,美國(guó)發(fā)揮了獨(dú)特的作用。以下是印度網(wǎng)民的評(píng)論:Indiaby Swami Nand to slightly less extant China will remain 3rd world S holes with massive population that has trouble feeding itself.印度和稍微好些的中國(guó)將仍是第三世界國(guó)家,大量人口會(huì)面臨無(wú)法養(yǎng)活自己的麻煩。FIRST?by amuldongibabybut we will be the FIRST in POPULATION as our MINORITY POPULATION machine will be high production mood to take over the COUNTRY? so at least we are FIRST in ONE THING?少數(shù)族群會(huì)拼命生,占領(lǐng)整個(gè)國(guó)家,我們會(huì)成為人口第一大國(guó)。所以我們至少在某個(gè)方面是第一。China????by ChandanBut India, forget it.....中國(guó)不會(huì)?印度就別提了.....Silly articleby Nagesh VINDIA per capita == $1000CHINA per capita == $4000 to $5000USA per capita == $50,000印度人均GDP1000美元;中國(guó)人均GDP4000-5000美元;美國(guó)人均GDP50000美元。Nature is the super powerby Viswanathan SBy 2030, with all the global warming and other issues, nature will be the biggest superpower. As evident from Hurricane Sandy and the Japan Tsunami到2030年,隨著全球氣候變暖以及其他問(wèn)題,大自然才是超強(qiáng),從桑迪風(fēng)暴和日本海嘯就可以明顯看出。India will rule the worldby jignesh bondHaha hahahahahaha印度會(huì)統(tǒng)治世界,哈哈......INDIA's recordby Nagesh V1. Highest Population2. Extreme levels of govt corruption3. Highest number of illiterate people4. Highest number of child laborers5. Highest level mal nourished children6. Horrible infrastructre ( power, roads etc)7. Highest AIDS casesSuper power - -- ha ha ha以下是印度的記錄:1、人口最多;2、腐敗最嚴(yán)重;3、文盲最多;4、童工最多;5、營(yíng)養(yǎng)不良的兒童最多;6、基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施最爛(電力、公路等);7、艾滋病人數(shù)最多;印度是超級(jí)大國(guó),哈哈.....Boycott Commonwealth Summitby Ilango SIndia should boycott the next Commonwealth Summit - 2013 in Sri Lanka. As Srilankan Govt failed to implement 13 amendment and allowing chinese base in Lankan Territory印度應(yīng)該抵制下一屆在斯里蘭卡舉行的2013年英聯(lián)邦峰會(huì)。斯里蘭卡zf未能執(zhí)行13條修正案,允許中國(guó)人在其領(lǐng)土上建立基地。.by GuestIndia may become erstwhile USSR印度可能會(huì)成為前蘇聯(lián)。China couldby Himesh RNot sure about India but China could as it has the right potential.對(duì)印度不確定,但中國(guó)有潛力,應(yīng)該會(huì)成為超級(jí)大國(guó)。Re: China couldby AmitIf majr countries like India, china had any brains they shud stop using dollars to do trade with pther countries this will lead to dollar collapsing to its real low value如果印度、中國(guó)等大國(guó)有點(diǎn)腦子,那么在同其他國(guó)家貿(mào)易時(shí)應(yīng)該拒絕使用美元,此舉會(huì)導(dǎo)致美元奔潰,回歸其真實(shí)價(jià)值。Re: Re: China couldby shrihariwhat's the alternative有什么替代選擇嗎?Re: Re: Re: China couldby MahavirBarter system易貨制。China Can.... India Cantby lax yoprChina can actually be a fierce competitor to US, but definitely not India.To be powerful from outside, you have to be first powerful from inside, which is lacking in India's case.China too is not that powerful from inside because its not a democracy, but the day China's citizens are fully satisfied either because of return to democracy or otherwise, it will automatically become a global power.Look at USA, its citizens are satisfied with their govt, there is no corruption, people are respected by the politicians, there is no discrimination etcAnyone (country, humans) who want to be powerful from outside, need to be FIRST powerful from inside.中國(guó)實(shí)際上可以成為美國(guó)的激烈競(jìng)爭(zhēng)對(duì)手,但印度肯定不能。要想在外部強(qiáng)大,就必須先內(nèi)部強(qiáng)大,印度正是缺乏這個(gè)。中國(guó)不是皿煮國(guó)家,所以內(nèi)部也不強(qiáng)大,但一旦中國(guó)人民得到充分滿足,或者通過(guò)走上皿煮的方式,或者通過(guò)其他途徑,那么中國(guó)就會(huì)自動(dòng)成為超級(jí)大國(guó)。看看美國(guó),公民對(duì)其zf感到滿意,沒(méi)有腐敗,人們得到政客的尊重,沒(méi)有歧視等。任何人或者國(guó)家要想在外部強(qiáng)大,就需要首先在內(nèi)部強(qiáng)大。US should Lead alwaysby Rrrras like any organization the world order also needs a pyramid ..Powerful usa would always be the need of the hour as a only real and vibrant democracy with strong economy and military.usa can only play a mediator in world affairs and it should continue to do so.India no way is in this list ...a democracy based on lollipops cannot lead the world.after usa china should balance the power in asia...but with strong tactics and friction with almost all neighbours that scenario is also unlikely任何組織都呈現(xiàn)金字塔結(jié)構(gòu),世界秩序也有這個(gè)需求。美國(guó)擁有強(qiáng)大的經(jīng)濟(jì)和軍隊(duì),是唯一真正充滿活力的皿煮國(guó)家,如此強(qiáng)大的美國(guó)將一直是世界當(dāng)前所需。美國(guó)可以充當(dāng)世界事務(wù)的調(diào)停者,應(yīng)該繼續(xù)保持這樣的角色。印度不可能躋身此角色名單,一個(gè)基于“棒棒糖”的皿煮國(guó)家無(wú)法領(lǐng)導(dǎo)世界。次于美國(guó)的中國(guó)應(yīng)該平衡亞洲力量.....由于實(shí)行強(qiáng)勢(shì)策略,以及幾乎與所有鄰國(guó)存在摩擦,此種情形也不大可能發(fā)生。Of course ... thats trueby Mukkesh GandhiWith what happened recently in the parliament in respect to FDI it makes clear that india is still the india of british, and is ruled by indians who can do any thing just for money.....議會(huì)最近有關(guān)外資的辯論,清晰表明印度仍是英屬印度,統(tǒng)治者為了錢什么也做得出來(lái).......as an indianby lancerAs an Indian i have no intentions of ruling over the world.......i just want to live in peace with every other individual within the counry and with people of other nations.作為一名印度人,我可沒(méi)有統(tǒng)治世界的意圖......我只想同國(guó)內(nèi)外的每一個(gè)人和平相處。Re: as an indianby utpal royFor this so called "peace loving" mentality others ruled India. You can only live in peace if no other country can dominate us. So, we need to keep the powder dry....就是因?yàn)檫@個(gè)所謂“熱愛(ài)和平”的心態(tài),其他國(guó)家統(tǒng)治了印度。只有沒(méi)有國(guó)家可以主宰你的時(shí)候,你才能和平生活。所以,我們需要做好一切準(zhǔn)備.....It is true!!! probably eternally true....by Dudeindia cannot rule becoz india is a pathetic nation & US knows that it cannot rule.But in case China US can say becoz if it happens to dictates US or affects US then US will destroy everything.Otherwise, China can rule the world or in a way it is ruling also.US also give pat on back to india in order to use it against China if required in future.印度是一個(gè)悲哀國(guó)家,不具備統(tǒng)治世界的實(shí)力,美國(guó)清楚這點(diǎn)。至于中國(guó),如果對(duì)美國(guó)蠻橫或者影響到了美國(guó),那么美國(guó)會(huì)摧毀一切。否則,中國(guó)會(huì)統(tǒng)治世界,或者說(shuō)在某種程度上已經(jīng)在統(tǒng)治了。為了將印度作為未來(lái)必要時(shí)對(duì)抗中國(guó)的棋子,美國(guó)也給予印度贊許以示鼓勵(lì)。Ruleby arungopal agarwalHow India can, when could not eradicate poverty in 65 years of independence. Could not control population and corruption.獨(dú)立65年了,印度沒(méi)有消滅貧窮,無(wú)法控制人口和腐敗,又怎么能統(tǒng)治世界。Partially agreeby dravidian manIndia will not rule the world even after 10000 years.But China has the potential to do that.印度就是1萬(wàn)年后也統(tǒng)治不了世界。但中國(guó)有統(tǒng)治世界的潛力。Re: Partially agreeby Vishwanathan Anandall the best brother.you have an option of migrating to china or wherever. We'll fight the battle here.兄弟,祝一切順利。你可以選擇移民中國(guó)或者其他國(guó)家。我們會(huì)留在這里戰(zhàn)斗的。I bet, INDIA will definitly rule the world...!!by bunty nayakHey America, I bet, our INDIA will definitely rule the world....in corruption...!!嘿,美國(guó)佬,我敢打賭印度肯定會(huì)統(tǒng)治世界.....當(dāng)然是腐敗方面拉.....。pple, Mercedes, Bmw, Nokia ,Google will be history in 5-10 yrsby Devall to replaced by sino brands.yes USA is good at fighting ...but what is use of it ? nobody will buy usa goods just because it has good military蘋果、奔馳、寶馬、諾基亞、谷歌在5-10年內(nèi)會(huì)成為歷史,均會(huì)被中國(guó)品牌取代。沒(méi)錯(cuò),美國(guó)很能打仗....但有什么用?沒(méi)人會(huì)因?yàn)槊绹?guó)軍隊(duì)強(qiáng)大就買美國(guó)貨。lack Discipline and Ethicsby paparjunDespite the BOMBASTIC claims and boorish sloganeering, China and India are inferior nations.lack strength, Lack Ethics and DisciplineWhat is present in the US and lacks in India and China is WORK ETHIC. Accountability is absent.That said, China has a chance still. because the government is very strong and law of the land is very strong enforncement.Here in India, no one cares about the law.盡管表述言過(guò)其實(shí),口號(hào)喊得很土,中國(guó)和印度還是劣等國(guó)家,缺乏實(shí)力、道德和紀(jì)律。美國(guó)所具備的和中印所缺少的是工作道德,還有中印在問(wèn)責(zé)制方面的缺失。也就是說(shuō),中國(guó)仍然有機(jī)會(huì),因?yàn)閦f很強(qiáng)大,土地法得到強(qiáng)力執(zhí)行。在印度,沒(méi)人在意法律。Re: lack Discipline and Ethicsby RamRahim (View MyPage)True. Here law abiding citizens are considered inferior and lower class. VIPs take pride in overruling the law. People want freebies in lieu of vote (laptops, mobiles, land etc. without bothering that it is all from their own pocket, it is quite easy to fool or please Indian voters, they will either vote for their caste of for money). No hope with the current system.說(shuō)得對(duì),遵紀(jì)守法的公民在印度會(huì)被認(rèn)為是劣等人和低種姓人。重要人物以踐踏法律為自豪。人們用選票換小恩小惠(筆記本、手機(jī)、土地等),殊不知這些均出自自己的口袋。欺騙或討好印度選民非常簡(jiǎn)單。印度的當(dāng)前體制是沒(méi)有希望的。They may haveby RamRahimThey may have heard of MODI's footsteps. No doubt India will ragain its lost glory with unified efforts under transparent and focussed efforts under MODI. Welcome MODI. Otherwise, its just a hoax.他們可能聽(tīng)到了穆迪的腳步聲。毫無(wú)疑問(wèn),在穆迪透明的管理和辛勤付出下,印度會(huì)重拾輝煌。歡迎穆迪。否則,就只是個(gè)騙局而已。About India...by bonala raoIndia can't rule itself.... talk to Sonia, the foreigner... or to Rahul, the uneducated kid...印度都統(tǒng)治不了自己.....要不然去找外國(guó)人索尼婭說(shuō)去...或者找未受過(guò)教育的孩子拉胡爾.....Re: About India...by PrakashWe cant dictate terms to country like maldives in 2012 and US is talking about Indian supremacy @ 2030.. big joke我們沒(méi)有辦法在2012年對(duì)馬爾代夫這樣的國(guó)家發(fā)號(hào)施令,美國(guó)卻在談?wù)撚《?030年的霸權(quán)....大笑話。India, China won't rule the world anytime soonby rajendra tareTrue, India and China does not hv the education system and R & D as US. This will keep US ahead of these two countries in future too.印度和中國(guó)沒(méi)有類似美國(guó)的教育和研發(fā)體制,這會(huì)讓美國(guó)在未來(lái)領(lǐng)先這兩個(gè)國(guó)家。Not India, But definetly china will rule.by bihari babuActually china has already achieved that status. US is not capable of getting back manufacturing job. also their military combined with russia is most powerful.Inida has long way to go. only way US can do something is stop china from gaining more malitary equipment. that way india will reduce it to. US can be boss for long. If china is not controlled malitarlity, no way you can have better world order.印度不會(huì)統(tǒng)治世界,但中國(guó)肯定會(huì)。實(shí)際上,中國(guó)已經(jīng)取得這一地位。美國(guó)無(wú)法要回制造業(yè)工作。此外,中國(guó)加上俄羅斯的軍隊(duì)是最強(qiáng)大的。印度還有很長(zhǎng)一段路要走。美國(guó)唯一能做的是阻止中國(guó)獲得更多軍事裝備。美國(guó)可以長(zhǎng)久當(dāng)老大。如果軍事上不控制中國(guó),就絕不可能有更好的世界秩序。rule the world by 2030by Jonnalagedda PardhasaradhiNo way we can get any close to that dream.We will collapse under the weight of our own population and poverty.我們壓根就不可能實(shí)現(xiàn)這個(gè)夢(mèng)想。我們會(huì)在龐大人口和極度貧窮的重壓之下奔潰。INDIA-CHINAby dipak anandThose who have visited China would agree that India is far far behind than China in every sphere.It will take India ages to come at par with China, except IT where we can call ourselves equal among equals, otherwise all other difference shall remain for ever. How can we complete with China is a matter of debate. Even labourers are organised there, whereas we are dis-organised in every sector, whether it is private or government or whatsoever.How that distance would be covered or whether it can be covered is a matter of concern.I am at a loss to understand how and on what basis, we are dreaming to complete with USA ????去過(guò)中國(guó)的人都會(huì)同意這樣一個(gè)說(shuō)法,即印度在各領(lǐng)域遠(yuǎn)遠(yuǎn)落后中國(guó)。印度需要很多年才能與中國(guó)持平,除了IT可以平起平坐,其他領(lǐng)域的差距會(huì)一直存在下去。如何與中國(guó)競(jìng)爭(zhēng)是一個(gè)有爭(zhēng)議性的問(wèn)題。中國(guó)的勞工都是有組織的,而不管是私營(yíng)部門還是zf部門,我們都無(wú)組織紀(jì)律性。如何彌補(bǔ)差距或者差距是否能得到彌補(bǔ)是關(guān)注點(diǎn)。我對(duì)印度如何和憑什么同美國(guó)競(jìng)爭(zhēng)感到困惑。
作者:一字先生2012-12-14 20:07
白皮豬的階級(jí)斗爭(zhēng)思想也太嚴(yán)重了吧,為什么不和諧點(diǎn),地球聯(lián)盟合力飛去宇宙
作者:劉備字德華2012-12-14 20:10
好多清醒的三哥啊,這不是好現(xiàn)象啊
作者:insetinto2012-12-14 20:13
Re: Partially agreeby Vishwanathan Anandall the best brother.you have an option of migrating to china or wherever. We'll fight the battle here.
作者:桃花不落2012-12-14 20:14
三哥才不屑呢
作者:愛(ài)護(hù)2012-12-14 20:25
中國(guó)這樣的國(guó)家 能統(tǒng)治世界 我會(huì)很想不通
作者:憤怒的路人甲2012-12-14 20:26
"美國(guó)不受霸權(quán)主義國(guó)家主宰"因?yàn)槊绹?guó)自己就是霸權(quán)主義國(guó)家。真諷刺
作者:zy53282782012-12-14 20:28
又黑我三哥! MI 1S,Android
作者:LostSilence2012-12-14 20:29
三哥好像一直評(píng)論都存在著理性的聲音想來(lái)大概是能上網(wǎng)的都是精英吧,不像鬼子上網(wǎng)的都是廢柴宅男。
作者:hgyhgy2012-12-14 20:31
光看搬運(yùn)的三哥網(wǎng)友言論...跟我一種三哥網(wǎng)民文明程度碾壓東亞三國(guó)的錯(cuò)覺(jué)
作者:伊爾明司特2012-12-14 20:32
三哥好可怕...壓力瞬間增大了!